5/16/2006

More Bad Checks.

I touched off a little firestorm this morning with this post about bad checks in Great Falls. At first I said that "bad check cases essentially will not be pursued" in Great Falls. That was an overstatement on my part, so I changed the post to read "bad check cases will be pursued only if very particular, specific guidelines are met by the business."

I was sharply criticized by several, mostly anonymous posters. Primarily, it was suggested that I didn't do my homework:

  • "Do you ever check your facts before you post these kind of items?"
  • "Perhaps you should go back and investigate further before sending a broadside across the bow of the new police chief's desk without all of the facts in hand."
  • "Just where did you find the "very particular specific guidelines?" You must have obtained them somewhere? Can any member of the public get them, and where are they posted?"
  • "It's not about being defensive. It's about you getting your facts straight, or taking some minimal effort to back up your claims."
  • "Face it. You were talking out of the wrong end and got called on it. "
My response was that I saw "an article in the Tribune within the last year or two on this very issue. And the article listed certain circumstances where the GFPD stated it will not pursue or investigate bad check claims." Ok, so I dug a little deeper.

And I found this policy of the Cascade County Attorney's Office. If you review the policy, you will see that the County Attorney's Office outlines some pretty specific guidelines and procedures for bad check cases. Further, the policy says the County Attorney's Office "cannot prosecute" certain cases, such as post-dated checks, second (two) party checks, and checks under $25.00. Yet, if one reviews the Montana Code on bad checks, there are no such limitations. (Only bad checks over $25.00 are illegal?)

Now, I am not going to debate with you anonymous posters whether or not the County Attorney's office's limitations on what they can and "cannot" prosecute are reasonable. They might well be. And if you go back and read the original post, I was merely questioning whether it might make sense to be more aggressive in prosecuting even the little cases.

But I think now that I have documented the "very particular, specific guidelines" for prosecution of bad checks, and have documented that some bad checks simply will not (whoops, "cannot") be prosecuted even though writing them is still illegal, your complaints of my not having my facts straight look a little silly. Yes, even a little defensive.

7 comments:

david said...

Well done, GeeGuy! And BTW -- I saw those three checks hanging up today when I stopped at the establishment you referenced -- gave me a little chuckle. , knowing that the thief/s had set off a little blog-storm that I'm sure they aren't aware of.

Anonymous said...

Here's an interesting article on the Outsourcing of bounced-check enforcement

Anonymous said...

As a person who knows, I have seen so-called bad check cases prosecuted for less than $500.00 total, less than the felony amount, prosecuted as felonies under common scheme. These cases are easily resolved if the checks are paid. If they aren't, someone who writes ten checks for $25.00 each to one or more casinos can be and are prosectued for felony bad checks, common scheme. I personally don't like the common scheme thing because it allows an end run around the felony amount of $1,000.00. I have had to explain this over and over.....how can this be a felony when the amount of checks written do not equal the felony amount of $1,000.00. The really sad part of this is that most people writing bad checks at casinos have some degree of a gambling problem that has not been addressed, and instead of showing some compassion, our society brands them as criminal, and places a cloud over them for the rest of their life. Hardly seems fair....but hey, I am just one person with one opinion.

GeeGuy said...

As am I, Melody.

And there are plenty of stolen checks and bad checks written at places other than casinos, too.

Anonymous said...

These poor people writing bad checks, Melody, branded as criminals for committing a crime! Imagine!

Anonymous said...

Dear Anon:
At least I can sign my name to what I write.

Anonymous said...

I am old enough to remember counter checks on every bar in town. Something to be said about society in general.


If you are a small business person and you take a bad check from soemone in the Air Force, I am sure a call to the Wing Commander will solve the problem rather quickly...