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But I am pretty sure she kept her comments under three minutes.
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Clearly there were some other options available...options that may have even been reasonably considered if 7 minutes of actual listening took place.
I bet our mayor & police chief are doing their best to steal away this officer. What a great addition he would make to the commission meeting protection force.
Great point, Anon. I'll bet Chief Dorky's got an eye on him as we speak! But ya know, call me ignorant and call me stupid, but I'll be danmed that try as I may, I STILL can't figure out just WHAT crime Chief Dorky and the his boys are trying to prevent by being at the council meetings! But like McGruff the Crime Dog, maybe Dorky's there to enforce the three minute rule in order to Take A Bite Outta Time so to speak. And I wonder, I'd like to know just HOW much Dorky gets paid for attending those meetings?! And just possibly couldn't that money be better spent on the doughnut fund?? No, just kidding. Couldn't that money be better spent on REAL criminals??........like the SME folks?????
LK
LK; Hold on a minute here. Are you saying that it is illegitimate for the GFPD to provide security at commission meetings?
Overfield was arrested for assault not for speaking her mind. To those of us without an agenda there is a difference. Arguing the necessity of the rule is legitimate but the rule is the rule until it's changed and the police who enforce it deserve more respect then they are shown here. When was the last time any of you risked life and limb for your fellow man?
Wolf, Overfield was arrested after the fact of being dragged out for speaking. Please provide the actual law on the books she was manhandled out of the room for in the first place. Please site the complete section of the legal code and penalties. I have yet to find actual law to this effect.
"Arguing the necessity of the rule is legitimate but the rule is the rule until it's changed and the police who enforce it deserve more respect then they are shown here." I don't think so friend. Remember Rosa Parks? Are you even old enough? Again what is the actual city criminal code the police were enforcing?
This is a nation of laws, not arbitrary enforcement of made on the fly rules. If you are going to use police power to arrest it better be for breaking a law on the books. Dragging out somebody for free speech in a public meeting crosses the line. If you are a cop and fail to inform somebody that you physically assault than you will suffer consequences of your actions. At that point you are a common thug and a bully.
When was the last time any of you risked life and limb for your fellow man? Grow up buddy. We all face life and death issues.
TSJ - provide security from what? The police are there to provide intimidation. This is not a court room with a verdict being read, it is a citizen meeting. Do you you think we need them for PTA meetings too? No, they are there to send a clear message that the people are not the boss any more.
Anon- I believe the law you are looking for is MCA 45-8-101 "Disorderly conduct" section (g) disturbing or disrupting any lawful assembly or public meeting.
This information isn't hard to find so why didn't you try? Because it doesn't fit your view of the cops/pigs?
Ohhhh. So THAT'S why they're there. To "keep order". WHAT A FREAKIN' JOKE! Well, you made the statement, wolfy. Please explain for the forum the complete history of "disorderlyness" that PRECIPATED having the coppers there! As was mentioned, this is simply a public meeting. If primadonna and co. don't feel comfortable facing their constituents in a public forum, methinks that it is THEY who are the cowards here! I mean my GOD! I don't know how many similar public meetings or public functions that you've been to, but I've been to zillions! And you know what. I NEVER saw the need for a copper. It's pure intimidation, and a gross misuse of the PD. And it represents an unholy alliance between city government and the enforcement agency. It's dispicable! And as to your "assualt" accusation, actually, the ONLY assualt was committed by three guys in plain clothes who grabbed an unsuspecting woman and did NOT identify themselves as police! Now, wolfy, are you REALLY going to argue that a person has no right to self-defense????????????? What would YOU do if someone came up and grabbed you? And no, Susan did NOT "punch a cop in the balls". She actually grabbed his balls. Therefore, it should only be a missdaweener! True story. (course, I'm no lawyer. So I'm not exactly sure what constitutes a missdaweener!)
LK
Ok, I don't care what side of this you're on, that was funny.
She only grabbed his testicles, so that makes it a 'missed the weiner.' That's pretty good, Larry.
By the way, I don't necessarily agree with Larry on this one, but I'll try to write more later.
Sorry bout that, Geeguy. I din't know if that one would pass your approval rating. I was gonna label it R for risque before posting.
LK
That was pretty funny.
Last time I heard speech is protected, even in this fascist city. Why heck, you are even protected under the first amendment when you called the cops "pigs" as you cleverly do in your post.
What a great observation wolfman. As you say, the cops and mayor are guilty of disrupting & disturbing a lawful public meeting.
Anon- what's with the moving target? You ask for the law broken insisting that it doesn’t exist and I provide it. Now you switch to some kind of constitutional argument. I'm not a lawyer but I'm certain freedom of speech does not give you the right to take over a government body until you feel fit to give back the podium. You have the freedom to speak, not the freedom to force others to listen to you. If Overfield was speaking to the commissioners they are not bound by the constitution to listen. If she was speaking to the crowd, the city is not required to provide her a soap box. Her right to occupy the commission chambers ended once she was asked to leave for refusing to follow reasonable rules. She’s the one who defiantly declared that she would not follow the rules of the meeting. Her freedom of speech was never infringed; she could keep on talking once she left the room but instead decided to engage in a testicle festival (what a class act).
Wow!, wolfpup! Just wow! Guess that you've never felt the need to defend free speech! And that's kinda sad, really. For you see there really are some issues that demand to be fully, publicly debated. Guess you feel strongly that them fellas pouring tea into the harbor should'a been arrested on the spot for littering!!!!!!!!! tee hee.
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